USS Chesapeake - memorial plaque in England
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I thought that the invasion (or as the US thought it would be percieved by the locals, "liberation") of Canada was one of the main objects. No, it wasn't. It was an afterthought, which Canadian...
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Mind you, Broke was pitting his crack crew- which he had preserved by burning his prizes rather than parceling out prize-crews - against Lawrence' green crew of which half the officers and a quarter...
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IcelofAngeln wrote:Mind you, Broke was pitting his crack crew- which he had preserved by burning his prizes rather than parceling out prize-crews - against Lawrence' green crew of which half the...
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Britain was not interested in war at all. Indeed from their point of view it was a side show that they wanted to go away, ideally on the status quo ante, being concerned with the more important war...
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Yep, no doubt about it. If you intend to invade a colony of the most powerful country on earth its a good idea to have an army. Its interesting though that the British were just as inept when they...
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Before the war Britain had been making significant efforts to block any westward expansion of the US... after the war they gave up all such efforts, focusing only on keeping us south of a certain...
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Exactly so bager. I think people (Americans and Brits alike) looking at the War of 1812 continue to misread the results because they are focused on the very short term only.
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We can argue about the significance of the War of 1812 and even who won, but why does mention of this war provoke such stupendous historical ignorance from American posters who ought to know better?...
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Funny... your version of "what the Americans believe/teach about the War of 1812" bears no resemblance to what is actually taught about that conflict in American schools! Not surprising... the...
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I never cease to be confused by the easy manner in which many people use the first personal plural pronoun when describing the actions of individuals who lived and died centuries earlier. It has never...
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And some people are so obsessively anal-retentive about completely insignificant nitpicks that they really should see a psychiatrist about some medication and treatment.
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bager1968 wrote:Funny... your version of "what the Americans believe/teach about the War of 1812" bears no resemblance to what is actually taught about that conflict in American schools! Not...
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"America was granted no concession except status quo ante" Rot.
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To repeat, since you missed it (or ignored it because it didn't deal with Europe)...Britain had to give up on its insistence on a British-sponsored Indian state to the west of Ohio & the Great...
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What you imagine to be a territorial concession on the part of Britain had already been ceded under the Treaty of Paris in 1783. The only question was whether Britain would retake this territory as...
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MSR: To 'we' or not to 'we' is a complicated question: I used to think exactly like yourself but then did the "But just think!" thing and came up with a different answer than yours*. Turns out that...
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a little-known impact of the war re RN manning during the period. Britain could build as many ships as desired but the American adventure kept more in commission than could be properly manned. If...
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spiffingchap wrote:What you imagine to be a territorial concession on the part of Britain had already been ceded under the Treaty of Paris in 1783. The only question was whether Britain would retake...
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The Indian states already existed (obviously), many had legal standing according to treaties with the US, and all Britain had done before the war was sell weapons to them which was not illegal. Any...
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As a follow up a memorial service has been held at Halifax Canada where the two ships sailed following the engagement 200 years ago : - https://navynews.co.uk/archive/news/item/8025
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